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	<title>Comments on: Radical Parenting on Discovery Health</title>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, through know fault of the family at all.  It&#039;s just the way television has to twist things.  I always wonder why they feel it&#039;s necessary to present a two-sided view, when they could provide an informational view without any sides.  Like, &quot;here&#039;s what unschooling is, take it or leave it&quot;.  I guess that wouldn&#039;t make very good television though would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, through know fault of the family at all.  It&#8217;s just the way television has to twist things.  I always wonder why they feel it&#8217;s necessary to present a two-sided view, when they could provide an informational view without any sides.  Like, &#8220;here&#8217;s what unschooling is, take it or leave it&#8221;.  I guess that wouldn&#8217;t make very good television though would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed this first run, but just saw it.  What I am most dissappointed about the unschooling segment is that noone addressed the harmful effects of &quot;schooling&quot; that most don&#039;t know about, or take to be part of our society.  John Holt and John Taylor Gatto are two of my favorite authors for those discussions.  Anyone considering their children&#039;s education would benefit from &quot;How Children Learn&quot; and &quot;How Children Fail&quot; (Holt), among others.

Unschooling allows a child to preserve his natural desire for learning by not imposing artificial restrictions of curriculum, learning methods, and time constraints allotted for subject matter.  In unschooling there is no &quot;teaching for the test&quot; unless the child wants to take a test for his own benefit.  There also is no constant fear - of getting called on - of getting an answer wrong - or even of getting the answer right (most kids don&#039;t want to be singled out the older they get).  Also the structure of traditional school does not engender critical thinking, but following authority.  It was designed that way when Dewey (et al) advocated the change 100 years ago.  Not a good segment, through no fault of the unschooling family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed this first run, but just saw it.  What I am most dissappointed about the unschooling segment is that noone addressed the harmful effects of &#8220;schooling&#8221; that most don&#8217;t know about, or take to be part of our society.  John Holt and John Taylor Gatto are two of my favorite authors for those discussions.  Anyone considering their children&#8217;s education would benefit from &#8220;How Children Learn&#8221; and &#8220;How Children Fail&#8221; (Holt), among others.</p>
<p>Unschooling allows a child to preserve his natural desire for learning by not imposing artificial restrictions of curriculum, learning methods, and time constraints allotted for subject matter.  In unschooling there is no &#8220;teaching for the test&#8221; unless the child wants to take a test for his own benefit.  There also is no constant fear &#8211; of getting called on &#8211; of getting an answer wrong &#8211; or even of getting the answer right (most kids don&#8217;t want to be singled out the older they get).  Also the structure of traditional school does not engender critical thinking, but following authority.  It was designed that way when Dewey (et al) advocated the change 100 years ago.  Not a good segment, through no fault of the unschooling family.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the way you feel and I always say it&#039;s perfectly OK to *not* be an unschooler.  :-)  But before you write it off completely, please understand that it isn&#039;t anything that anyone of us has learned and/or embraced overnight.  I like to think of unschooling as more of a journey or continuum.  We&#039;re all learning new things and new ways to look at learning everyday.  :-)  Thanks for commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the way you feel and I always say it&#8217;s perfectly OK to *not* be an unschooler.  <img src='http://www.eclecticreality.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But before you write it off completely, please understand that it isn&#8217;t anything that anyone of us has learned and/or embraced overnight.  I like to think of unschooling as more of a journey or continuum.  We&#8217;re all learning new things and new ways to look at learning everyday.  <img src='http://www.eclecticreality.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thanks for commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I watched Dicovery&#039;s Radical Parenting show I had assumptions about unschooling that came completely unraveled. Unfortunately it turned me off of unschooling. However, understanding the realities of our media I have done more investigating on my own. And it turns out that while I still think DHC could have done a better job on this segment, unschooling *is* the way the Parent family does things. It&#039;s taken me a couple days and lots of unschooling blog reading to come to this point but I have realized that unschooling isn&#039;t for me/us afterall. Homeschooling, yes, I could do. Relaxed homeschooling (thanks for the term that I read in here somewhere) is probably more my style. It&#039;s been an interesting past couple days. I really admire unschooling families. I guess there&#039;s no shame in saying it&#039;s not for me, but I *was* disappointed that that was the conclusion I came to. I guess I&#039;m just not as free or cutting edge as I thought. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I watched Dicovery&#8217;s Radical Parenting show I had assumptions about unschooling that came completely unraveled. Unfortunately it turned me off of unschooling. However, understanding the realities of our media I have done more investigating on my own. And it turns out that while I still think DHC could have done a better job on this segment, unschooling *is* the way the Parent family does things. It&#8217;s taken me a couple days and lots of unschooling blog reading to come to this point but I have realized that unschooling isn&#8217;t for me/us afterall. Homeschooling, yes, I could do. Relaxed homeschooling (thanks for the term that I read in here somewhere) is probably more my style. It&#8217;s been an interesting past couple days. I really admire unschooling families. I guess there&#8217;s no shame in saying it&#8217;s not for me, but I *was* disappointed that that was the conclusion I came to. I guess I&#8217;m just not as free or cutting edge as I thought. <img src='http://www.eclecticreality.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t thrilled with the way the program turned out, or how it made unschooling look but, I don&#039;t see how it could tick anyone off.  Many AP parents feel radical unschooling is a natural transition to radical unschooling.  The principles are not all that much different, if at all.  

&quot;Children with no boundaries or discipline is neither smart, loving, nor does it foster attachment.&quot;  I know lots of people who would disagree with you when this statement is understood the way you probably mean it.  Radical Unschoolers tend to view life and learning a little differently, and go about helping their children grow and understand boundaries in a non-authoritarian way.  

 I also don&#039;t see how this program affects you at all.  There are MANY styles of home education.  I enjoy being a friendly face of radical unschooling.  I also enjoy talking about and clarifying misinformation for people.  When we choose to do something outside of the mainstream, we need to understand that many people don&#039;t understand what we are doing or why we are doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t thrilled with the way the program turned out, or how it made unschooling look but, I don&#8217;t see how it could tick anyone off.  Many AP parents feel radical unschooling is a natural transition to radical unschooling.  The principles are not all that much different, if at all.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Children with no boundaries or discipline is neither smart, loving, nor does it foster attachment.&#8221;  I know lots of people who would disagree with you when this statement is understood the way you probably mean it.  Radical Unschoolers tend to view life and learning a little differently, and go about helping their children grow and understand boundaries in a non-authoritarian way.  </p>
<p> I also don&#8217;t see how this program affects you at all.  There are MANY styles of home education.  I enjoy being a friendly face of radical unschooling.  I also enjoy talking about and clarifying misinformation for people.  When we choose to do something outside of the mainstream, we need to understand that many people don&#8217;t understand what we are doing or why we are doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim @ Beautiful Wreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim @ Beautiful Wreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a homeschooling, attachment parent of five. I watched the program last night and the latter two segments were fantastic. The first segment me ticked me off within a matter of minutes. The Parent family was a poor example of unschooling. I hope they are far better parents than they came across last night. While what I have to say has angered many, what I saw was not a family unschooling, but two people who made children not parenting them. I do not see what they were doing as radical, unschooling, and definitely not attachment parenting. Children with no boundaries or discipline is neither smart, loving, nor does it foster attachment. In many ways this family shown hurt all of us who wish to educate our children at home. We are either seen as weirdos or religious freaks when we wish to educate our children at home. We are often accused of not properly educating our children and sheltering them from the world. Now we have another stereotype to overcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a homeschooling, attachment parent of five. I watched the program last night and the latter two segments were fantastic. The first segment me ticked me off within a matter of minutes. The Parent family was a poor example of unschooling. I hope they are far better parents than they came across last night. While what I have to say has angered many, what I saw was not a family unschooling, but two people who made children not parenting them. I do not see what they were doing as radical, unschooling, and definitely not attachment parenting. Children with no boundaries or discipline is neither smart, loving, nor does it foster attachment. In many ways this family shown hurt all of us who wish to educate our children at home. We are either seen as weirdos or religious freaks when we wish to educate our children at home. We are often accused of not properly educating our children and sheltering them from the world. Now we have another stereotype to overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcel</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also would have loved to see a range of families from younger children to adults. The experts were terrible. The woman annoyed me the most. I don&#039;t know what i expcted from DH channel. I am looking forward to the unschooling movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also would have loved to see a range of families from younger children to adults. The experts were terrible. The woman annoyed me the most. I don&#8217;t know what i expcted from DH channel. I am looking forward to the unschooling movie.</p>
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		<title>By: michele james-parham</title>
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		<dc:creator>michele james-parham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh. It was alright. I highly agree that only portraying one radical unschooling family was a poor choice. While I am a fan (maybe that&#039;s not the right word) of the &#039;Clan of Parents&#039;, seeing a variety of families, especially at least one with older or grown unschoolers, would have been better. I also didn&#039;t like how the &#039;experts&#039; didn&#039;t have to support their (what seemed like) opinions with any research, statistics or examples. I also didn&#039;t like that the Parents weren&#039;t able to speak back to the experts or that there wasn&#039;t a pro-radical unschooling &#039;expert&#039; to offer counter arguments. In all, I didn&#039;t see it as really balanced...not to mention that the way it was cut up seemed kind of staged and almost like it all happened in one day. An entire hour with equal time from both sides of the argument and at least two more families, might have made began to make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh. It was alright. I highly agree that only portraying one radical unschooling family was a poor choice. While I am a fan (maybe that&#8217;s not the right word) of the &#8216;Clan of Parents&#8217;, seeing a variety of families, especially at least one with older or grown unschoolers, would have been better. I also didn&#8217;t like how the &#8216;experts&#8217; didn&#8217;t have to support their (what seemed like) opinions with any research, statistics or examples. I also didn&#8217;t like that the Parents weren&#8217;t able to speak back to the experts or that there wasn&#8217;t a pro-radical unschooling &#8216;expert&#8217; to offer counter arguments. In all, I didn&#8217;t see it as really balanced&#8230;not to mention that the way it was cut up seemed kind of staged and almost like it all happened in one day. An entire hour with equal time from both sides of the argument and at least two more families, might have made began to make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.eclecticreality.net/2010/03/radical-parenting-on-discovery-health/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Stranahan is currently working a documentary called Unschooling: The Movie.  I have high hopes.  :-)  Of course I know and adore some of the people in it and Mr. Stranahan is unschooling.  http://www.unschooling.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Stranahan is currently working a documentary called Unschooling: The Movie.  I have high hopes.  <img src='http://www.eclecticreality.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Of course I know and adore some of the people in it and Mr. Stranahan is unschooling.  <a href="http://www.unschooling.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.unschooling.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there.  It&#039;s easy when things are edited like crazy to shift perception one way or another without showing the balanced, complete picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there.  It&#8217;s easy when things are edited like crazy to shift perception one way or another without showing the balanced, complete picture.</p>
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